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07-19-2011, 05:54 AM
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External coolant leak from cylinder head
I have a 2001 Taurus w/3.0 V-6 engine. I noticed a major loss of coolant under the car over the weekend and upon inspection it looks like the coolant is leaking from the front of the head between the head and cylinder block. Has anyone else ever had their Taurus exhibit this problem?
The engine has never been overheated and I have tried to maintain it very well.
I am a retired Ford Mechanic, but left the industry long before this car was sold so I don't have any first hand knowledge of problems like this happening.
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07-19-2011, 06:40 AM
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Do you have the DOHC engine engine code S
Or the Vulcan OHV engine code U
Or the Flex fuel engine code 2
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07-19-2011, 06:56 AM
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Sorry, I should have stated that. It is the VIN U 3.0 MFI engine. Nothing fancy.
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07-19-2011, 10:08 AM
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Did you look really close and see if wasn't coming from where the intake meets the cyl head.
If it is here is the procedure - If the lower intake manifold is not secured within four minutes, the sealant must be removed and the sealing area cleaned with metal surface cleaner. Allow to dry until there is no sign of wetness or four minutes, whichever is longer. Failure to follow this procedure can cause future oil leakage.
- Apply a 0.20-0.23 inch (5-6 mm) bead of silicone gasket and sealant at the four cylinder block-to-cylinder head seams.
- Install the lower intake manifold gaskets and end seals.
- Install the intake manifold. Tighten the bolts in two steps in the sequence shown:
- If Not probably head gasket or bolts broken
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07-19-2011, 11:18 AM
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Dominick,
Does the water jacket run that close to the edge of the manifold?
I will take a closer look. I will see if I can get an inspection mirror in to see if it the manifold leaking.
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07-19-2011, 12:16 PM
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Dominick,
It looks like this is where it is leaking. I think I will spend the $22 for a gasket kit, break out the old 3/8 burp gun and pull the manifolds. Do you have the torque specs for upper/lower bolts? I can't find them anywhere. Right now, buying a service manual is not an option. I am having to do the work myself as I have been off work for almost 1 1/2 years now and don't have the money. Fortunately, I can do the work and have the tools/equipment to do it with. But I need the specs.
Also, what does Ford recommend for the metal cleaner? Any specific products or just something like denatured alcohol?
Thanks
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07-19-2011, 12:37 PM
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Last edited by Dominick; 07-19-2011 at 12:45 PM.
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07-19-2011, 12:49 PM
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This info is from autozone.
That's the only place I could find it.
Dom.
2005 has a different torque spec so I deleted them since you have a 2001.
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07-19-2011, 04:44 PM
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Dom,
Thanks for the information. It helps a great deal to have it in front of you when doing this kind of work. I am familiar with the removal and installation process. Have had to replace many injectors on the 5.0 T-Birds when Ford recalled them in the last 80's early 90's. As I said, I am a retired mechanic and did work for Ford. Blew my back out under the dash of a Tempo of all cars. Pinched my sciatic nerve and crushed ligament L2-L3. Was in a lot of pain for several years afterwards but have since moved on. I still tinker with my cars doing what I can myself to keep cost down. I still have all of my tools from when I left the industry so you can imagine what I have in my Snap On Roll Cab and Top Box. It's full.
Thanks for the help!
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02-02-2012, 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Dominick
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Did you look really close and see if wasn't coming from where the intake meets the cyl head.
If it is here is the procedure- If the lower intake manifold is not secured within four minutes, the sealant must be removed and the sealing area cleaned with metal surface cleaner. Allow to dry until there is no sign of wetness or four minutes, whichever is longer. Failure to follow this procedure can cause future oil leakage.
- Apply a 0.20-0.23 inch (5-6 mm) bead of silicone gasket and sealant at the four cylinder block-to-cylinder head seams.
- Install the lower intake manifold gaskets and end seals.
- Install the intake manifold. Tighten the bolts in two steps in the sequence shown:
- If Not probably head gasket or bolts broken
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Dom,
After much consideration and tear down on the engine, I still could not positively identify the leak. I decided recently that my best option at this point, due to mileage, is drop a short block in the car. I just had the trans done last year and it only has a couple of thousand miles on it. Putting an engine in it will give me several more years out of the car. This way I'm not trying to patch an engine that has 100,000 miles on it and cause other failures within the engine.
Thank you for all your help!
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02-02-2012, 06:13 PM
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Maybe a heater hose or another hose near by is squirting antifreeze on where you see it leaking so it appears to be leaking from somewhere it's not. Maybe the hose only opens up under certain high pressure/heat conditions. Have you changed the thermostat? Maybe the thermostat gasket is leaking? Check out this guy's story - Coolant leak on 2001 Taurus.Coolant seems to be - FixYa
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02-02-2012, 07:01 PM
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If you are concerned the engine is leaking on the top end, it really makes no sense to drop in a short block and then go back with your original top end.
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02-09-2012, 06:01 AM
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Originally Posted by jfjohn
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Maybe a heater hose or another hose near by is squirting antifreeze on where you see it leaking so it appears to be leaking from somewhere it's not. Maybe the hose only opens up under certain high pressure/heat conditions. Have you changed the thermostat? Maybe the thermostat gasket is leaking? Check out this guy's story - Coolant leak on 2001 Taurus.Coolant seems to be - FixYa
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Heater hoses were my first though along with the core. My sister has an 02 Sable and the metal tube going to the core sprang a leak and did it ever spew coolant all over the place. When I got home and was checking the problem out, I had the cap off, no pressure, and water was still pouring out of the engine. I can see no freeze plugs blown, leaking hoses, water pump issues or any of the normal problems. The stat is a moot point on this engine since it is at the rear of the engine and my leak was at the front. But, thank you for the thoughts. I have the engine almost half way disassembled and could only find some dried coolant in a few areas nothing specific. I could put it all back together and see if I have fixed it or not, but as I said, I have almost 100,000 miles on the car and I am a field service tech. I can dirve upwards of 250 miles daily and need it to be dependable. With the new trans, having a new engine in it will keep the car on the road for several more years without having to worry about it.
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