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Help - Can anyone ID these brakes???

Discussion in 'Brakes, Steering & Suspension' started by haltriumph, Apr 14, 2018.

  1. haltriumph

    haltriumph New Member

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    Hi Everyone -

    I am not a Ford guy, but a British car guy. I have a '51 Morris Oxford MO that at some point had its rear end replaced with something from a Ford. The brakes went bad and so I need to rebuild or replace the rear cylinders. But, I have no idea what they are!?! Can anyone ID them from these pictures? Please follow this link: https://cloud.boulder.swri.edu/index.php/s/61lUp77I7F6MRRC
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    Welcome to the FFO!

    That axle is a 4 lug axle. Likely from a Falcon or Mustang from the mid-1960s that had a 6 cylinder engine. Eight cylinder engine had a larger axle with 5 lugs. The inside of the brake drum would be about 9" in diameter. An example of this drum would be this listing. https://www.ebay.com/itm/NOS-OEM-Fo...ash=item5d7c59cd37:g:lewAAOSwQapauWvY&vxp=mtr

    There may be a metal tag still on the axle housing on a bolt for the rear cover.

    Here are pictures of that axle http://www.mustangandfords.com/how-to/drivetrain/127-0310-ford-differential-builders-guide/

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    Thanks for the quick reply! The cylinder does look like the one on ebay, but I don't know that sizes, of course. The axial does have a tag. I think it says:
    CIDD4001 AL 103
    3.2 1E​
    I could not find anything on the web with an exact match, although I did find some reference to CIDD4001 that seems to indicate it is from a Falcon. See the additional pictures at https://cloud.boulder.swri.edu/index.php/s/PC4lZikfcVg7f1K
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    I should have said that the drum you pointed to looks exactly like the one that I have. It is 9".

    The cylinders that I see online for the Falcon don't look exactly like what I have. The Mustang one you pointed me to looks better. Should I try them?
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    make sure you have the same cup size
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    Based on the tag data you have a very old Falcon axle (1961) with a 3.21 ratio gear set.

    The wheel cylinder should be a C3DZ 2261 B
    3/4 cup
    At one point the original had a green paint stripe or paint daub
    1960-1964 Falcon

    And depending on what part of the planet (I did ask where you are located) you are, a fast moving parts store in the US may have that n stock.


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    Thanks! BTW: I am in Colorado.
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