I've also heard Ford has added internal baffles to some of the transmissions .There have been continued issues with towing the 2009 and 2010 Escapes, as well as the 2010 Fusions. The 2010 models show the correct fluid level to tow these at in the owner's manual. The 2009 has a technical service bulletin regarding this. The lowered fluid level seems to be correcting MOST, but not ALL of the problems.
The good news is, all of the posts I have read on various forums on the internet say that adjusting the level of the trans fluid as described in the 09 owners manual addendum, plus starting and idling before your trip and at each fuel stop seems to resolve any problems.Does anyone know if the flat tow issues have been fixed ? The last I heard was to lower the fluid level on the 09's. That didn't sound like an acceptable fix to me.
Can you be specific?There have been continued issues with towing the 2009 and 2010 Escapes, as well as the 2010 Fusions. The 2010 models show the correct fluid level to tow these at in the owner's manual. The 2009 has a technical service bulletin regarding this. The lowered fluid level seems to be correcting MOST, but not ALL of the problems.
This has been a much bigger problem than overflowing of the fluid , many owners have had 3 or more transmissions replaced because of over heating while being towed , apparently because of foaming of the fluid .Many of us didn't feel having to lower the fluid to the minimum standard level was a acceptable long term fix. Apparently the later production transmissions have modified internal baffling which I assume eliminates this band-aid . Some folks adjusted the fluid appropriately only to have it topped off by someone when in for other service such as an oil change .Can you be specific?
It seems to me that people just keep reiterating the same problem with overflowing of the transfluid when flat towed. Ford issued a TSB on that issue, and as the oldwizard stated made new dipsticks with clearly understandable markings on them.
The lowered fluid level seems to be correcting MOST, but not ALL of the problems.
There is an unconfirmed rumor that Ford has some type of baffle in the sump, but this does NOT change the requirement for lowering the fluid level while towing.I understand.
Does this issue still exist for the 2010s?
I thought that I read that Ford will make changes to the 2009 trans IF it was brought in for a repair under warranty. And with that thought in mind, I suspect that the 2010s have the modification built in.
I concur !I understand.
Those who bought their escape becuase it was advertised that it could be flat towed, towed it and had a problem certainly have a legitimate gripe IMO. But I don't think that it is fair to continue to bash a company on an issue that I believe was addressed.
While there have been some issue with harsh shift, etc while driving (not towing), the towing issue has always been about fluid level. Here is my analysis.So I am asking LittleE, what are the other issues? in the 2010 escapes and fusions that are not addressed by lowering the fluid levels to the flat tow specs?
Mine is FWD, but the only reason we bought this vehicle is it is advertised to be towable 4 wheels down. We have spent over $2000 on tow bars and backing plates, and I won't be spending another $1000 on a tow dolly, which is also a pain in the rear. The car is advertised to be towable 4 wheels down!is yours FWD or 4WD? if it's FWD just put it on a car dolly. if 4WD put the front on car dolly, and disconnect the drive shaft in the rear like we use to have to do when towing the older cars, and trucks
I don't think that you must have the ATF level check by a dealer before flat towing. There wouldn't be any reason to include all the pictures and instructions of how check the level, adjust, etc. and the caution about using non-approved ATF.IMPORTANT
I just received a copy of the "Customer Satisfaction Program" noted above, which we have already have performed. ALSO ENCLOSED was a notice that the towing instructions in the Owner's Guide are incorrect. They included an "Owner Guide Supplement" with the notice. While reading the revised instructions (which all have to do with the reduced fluid level that we have already discussed), I noticed an important instruction. The booklet says that you must have the fluid level verified by an authorized dealer before towing. I feel this is definitely a way for them to start denying paying for a new transmission if there is still a problem and the fluid level hasn't been verified by a dealer. We will be stopping at the dealer for verification before every trip. What a pain! But paying for the transmission if there is a problem and we DON'T have it verified will be a bigger pain. Anyway - I thought this was important info to share.
To Poppy and The Old Wizard - I know of at least 2 people who had the reduced fluid level and still burned up a transmission while towing. I firmly believe the outside temperature is a factor. We will be leaving Arizona on July 16th for a trip to Oregon (after stopping at the dealer to verify the fluid level, of course). If we tow it to Oregon and back with no issues, then I will be convinced the fluid level is the problem. Until then, I will not. I hope I am wrong and we make it with no problems. I don't look forward to another trip like last summer, when we had to leave the car in Albuquerque and go to NY (where we were meeting friends) and spend the entire trip with no tow vehicle. Then we got it back and burned up another one between Durango and Phoenix. If you had these problems, you would be a little paranoid too.
Page 6 of the addendum supplement I received says , " before you recreational flat tow , your fluid level must be verified by an authorized dealer . "I don't think that you must have the ATF level check by a dealer before flat towing. There wouldn't be any reason to include all the pictures and instructions of how check the level, adjust, etc. and the caution about using non-approved ATF.