Have 1965 Galaxie 500 convertible. Every appearance item is stock. Looking to upgrade headlights, possibly to HID/LED lights but not a fan of the Darth Vader appearance. Any helpful do's and don'ts would be welcome.
Hello Barry in Jax,Have 1965 Galaxie 500 convertible. Every appearance item is stock. Looking to upgrade headlights, possibly to HID/LED lights but not a fan of the Darth Vader appearance. Any helpful do's and don'ts would be welcome.
Wow! 100w low beams!?! 140w high beams!?! That is almost getting to aircraft landing lights, eh? Have the authorities ever questioned your light brightness? I suspect those are "off road" use only lamps, but they would be a huge boost over stock lighting levels, for sure. Were you able to aim them well enough to not melt the retinas of oncoming drivers?Hello Barry in Jax,
I'm in the process of this myself on our '66's and '68 Full size Fords. I found the standard round 5-3/4" round headlamp housings that will accept an H4 bulb, they are just glass composite headlamps. I am using 100/140 watt clear halogen H4's for the 4 headlamps in each car. The high/low headlamps will go through automatically resetting circuit breakers and relays direct to the battery and triggered from the existing headlamp wiring.
I did this already in our '79 Dodge truck and it has for rectangular headlamps from the factory so I put in the rectangular composites and 100/140 watt clear halogens and boy oh boy is it bright on high beams. The interesting thing is I tried the blue-ish tinge H4's and the new windscreen we installed in it actually attenuated the light through the windscreen. If you rolled down the door window and looked out, it was noticeably brighter. The new windscreen attenuated the blue spectrum. So putting in clear halogens still gives a decent white light with no notable attenuation through the windscreen.
I am not sold on the LED conversions currently. I would have to extensively test some brands for me to try them in an actual car. I wouldn't even try one with the little cheap looking fan on the backside. Our cars are daily drivers and I can't have nonsense breaking or failing from cheaply made products. I guess for a Sunday driver or once a month car, they might be ok. That's just not my cup of tea.
Howdy 70XL,Wow! 100w low beams!?! 140w high beams!?! That is almost getting to aircraft landing lights, eh? Have the authorities ever questioned your light brightness? I suspect those are "off road" use only lamps, but they would be a huge boost over stock lighting levels, for sure. Were you able to aim them well enough to not melt the retinas of oncoming drivers?
Hello Action,Isn't Lumen a measure of light output and watts a measure of current draw.
While there is a relationship, it isn't the same when changing from one lamp type to the other
Things are fine here, except for a cold snap that is probably a little sooner than we'd expect. That and the height of the snow bank in the front yard is closer to what we'd expect for March, not December. I thought I started throwing it far enough from the edge of the drive way to give me room for the years worth, but the bank is very high already. I think everyone is generally happy for the moisture, come spring, but the 35 - 40 below makes shovelling less fun. LOLHowdy 70XL,
I hope you are doing well. So the thing that put me over the edge is that the newest cars and trucks have the brightest headlamps that are impossible for the oncoming traffic to deal with. Since NHTSA is not doing anything to regulate these cars and trucks. And by truck I'm specifically calling out the newer F-150's with those 4 lamps that all seemed to be aimed right in oncoming traffics pupils. Since you really can't fight them, why not join them and I use blue blocker night time darkened glasses. So yes I do wear my sunglasses at night, because: newer vehicles and ridiculous lumen output of new headlamps.
To your point of 100 Watt low beams and 140 Watt high beams, actually that is a small aircraft landing and or taxi lamp (they are 100W halogens). But you really can't go by wattage anymore simply because you are comparing LED vs incandescent at times. It's really now all about how many lumens per lamp; whatever that lamp may be. I do have the upper low/high beams adjusted normally so it's not a safety concern for others. However I did aim the lower set of low/beams (only come on high beam) so it does throw the light out and that would be obnoxious if blasted onto oncoming traffic.
To personally see just how obnoxious it was, there's a commercial section to our subdivision with rental hangers that are nearly a block long. So late night we parked out there and I walked to the end (about a block) and my better half flicked on the high beams from all off. Honestly it looked like that scene from Christine. Yuppers it was like UFO landed there.
About 20 feet away when you shut off the lamps you can still see the hot red filament glowing from that distance for about 5 seconds.
So my '68 XL and the '66 LTD and the '66 gal 500 XL are all getting the exact same bulb and wiring schema. Personally I'm still waiting for the crappy old Mopar alternator on the Dodge truck to not only implode but explode, haha, from 540 watts of high beams plus all the other accessories. Chrysler electrical systems were and quite frankly are still crap. I have a Ford voltage regulator on the Mopar alternator because the Mopar regulator died.
The other problem with our towns and cities is that no one is seemingly regulating the night time lighting of buildings and roads. I know they have banned in some parts Mercury Vapour lamps because the blueish light is too harsh for night time vision. I wish the US would honestly take a page out of Europes book and adopt low pressure sodium lamps. They produce a very narrow spectrum orange light that the human eye is really sensitive to. This is fantastic because it's closer to the red spectrum and the human eye recovers quicker for night time vision. That's why aircraft and other vehicles have a red light for cockpit viewing at night. The eye can transition much quicker to night time vision from it. The human peeper is to sensitive to this wavelength that means you only need a fraction of electrical power to power the lamp to see the same distance as with say a high pressure sodium lamp or even Mercury Vapour. So I would think this would appease the environmentalists, but as it turns out very, and I mean very few actually care.
Now to be fair there was a town called West Allis in Wisconsin that did adopt low pressure sodium. It was years ago but I remember how easy it was drive around town at night and there was no eye strain.
Sorry for the tangent but it was all kind of related. Nothing would please me more than with a highway regulation that is enforced concerning a white light colour temperature and overall lumen output maximums. I would happily comply, until then I will join the newer vehicles to actually see at night with bright lamps and night time specific spectrum blocking driving glasses.
Howdy 70XL,Things are fine here, except for a cold snap that is probably a little sooner than we'd expect. That and the height of the snow bank in the front yard is closer to what we'd expect for March, not December. I thought I started throwing it far enough from the edge of the drive way to give me room for the years worth, but the bank is very high already. I think everyone is generally happy for the moisture, come spring, but the 35 - 40 below makes shovelling less fun. LOL
I hear you on the often horrible headlights on many of the new trucks and SUV's. Piercing and blinding with what should be designed and built with better alignment. Even worse is the people that "upgrade" their old halogen headlights with HID and LED lamps without realizing that the reflector housing is not designed for those different types of light source. That and the other guys who are determined to use the LED light bars they added to their lifted 3/4 and 1 ton trucks as they drive around town.
Speaking of driving around town, there are very few Sodium lamp street lights left around here. Most of the lighting has been replaced with LED's and with the more controlled reflector designs being used the scatter is greatly reduced. I sure notice how there is no more orange glow in the sky when approaching the city at night.
Hello Iowan,You guy better have a good alternator and battery.